An Alliance With Germany, Russia and China: The Ultimate Powerblock to Challenge Anglo Hegemony

- Karen Georgievich, who brilliantly implements collusion plans...

Karen Shakhnazarov, director: Together with you!

- Yes, we both. He got an ideal deal. Look at the attempts to ruin the USSR in particular by the prices for oil. And now Trump tweets about crazy oil prices, like, they are ungrounded and should be lower. Before, the US leaders used to hide it. But now thanks to Twitter... Well, yeah. I mean... What Trump has on mind, Twitter has in posts.

 

- There is a great French author, Balzac. One of his characters, Gobseck, in a same-name novel, is now used to designate a stingy, greedy person. Gobseck pronounces a curious phrase: What is life if not a locomotive moved by money?

Actually, given the absolute victory of the capitalism, the stage we're living through, the phrase is quite relevant. We should look at the core of the developments. Search for the interest, as Napoleon would say.

I think today money is trying to create a new world order. Money needs a world without frontiers, sovereignty, or with a nominal sovereignty. This idea has been incorporated by the Western financial elite, the US one, and largely the global one used by the US as a means to achieve its goals. The US needs to create a global world, that's what globalism is about: to create a global world with free financial flows, where the capital will flow to the places where it will multiply. That's what capitalism is about.

In this context, Russia and China are the 2 countries who stepped in this system, but are still trying to defend their sovereignty. Of course, it's a major threat to it. Thus, I think it's the core of current developments. It's their message.

Speaking about Trump, paradoxically, he is their rival as well because Trump is an American nationalist. Trump represents the part of the US society that wants the US to regain sovereignty. It generates a conflict. We're discussing Syria and other issues, but we should bear Trump in mind. He canceled the Trans-Pacific Partnership. It was a major lever cherished by the US financial elite for many years. Trump canceled the Euro-Atlantic Partnership. These are real blows he inflicted on the globalism. Thus, Trump is unacceptable for them.

Certainly, Trump sometimes does look like a clown in his tweets. But is he really a clown or is this a way to fight against this financial elite? We don't know for sure. Anyway, he represents as big threat to them as Russia and China.

Once I said on this program that an axis Germany-Russia-China is possible in future, because Germany is, in fact, about industrial capitalism.

- It's actually the US biggest fear which it always mentions as a major existential blow.

- What does Germany need for growth? Germany needs resources and markets. Russia and China have both. Thus, obviously, Germany doesn't hail the idea of a global financial elite creating a global financial market. So, I guess Germany is likely to lean toward the Russia-China-Germany axis in future.

- Karen Georgievich?

- I don't think we should scare our audience. The world today isn't better or worse than yesterday, the day before yesterday. Historically, it's always been like this. It's always been all about collusion, more or less successful. A deadly fight of peoples, nations, alliances has always been there. And it's the case now. I think that everything said here is true.

But speaking about what we started with, I think the West made a crucial and considerable mistake. By the way, I disagree with you. The US profited from our perestroika to the fullest. They brilliantly profited from all the problems that Russia faced in the late 80s and early 90s. You said it was naive to think that they hadn't profited from the situation. We should profit from the problems they're facing. That's what politics is actually about.

But in this context, I feel that our politics is torn by internal hesitation that it's still possible to reach agreement with the West. It is possible, but not today and with different conditions. Thus, the West is pushing us to ally with China. But we've taken a wait-and-see approach. I feel that it's our fault, not the Chinese one. In this context, I think we should cultivate a more definite relationship with the People's Republic of China.

- Not being afraid of collusion?

- Why should we?

- Heeding the collusion!

- Why?

- I'm just asking.

- First, the West has convinced us that China has never been aggressive. It wasn't China that invaded Siberia. It was us. The Chinese may have issues with us...

- We both invaded it, but Russia succeeded.

- But it was we who attacked Beijing, they didn't attack Moscow.

- China didn't attack Moscow. It was the Horde.

- We should take a more resolute attitude and talk to the West from the position of strength. It wasn't Moscow...